Problem mit GPS Initialisierung

Hallo alle zusammen,

gestern habe ich nun endlich den MN4 installiert. Soweit lief alles ohne Probleme. Ich habe weder TMC noch Bluetooth, also die ganz einfache Variante...

Ich weiß, vor kurzer Zeit hatte jemand offenbar ein sehr ähnliches Problem, ich hoffe nur, dass die Maus i.O ist!!

Man soll ja der Navigon Maus ca 20 min Zeit geben, um die Initialisierung abschließen zu können. Dies habe ich gestern versucht. GPS Maus und PDA an die Stromversorgung angeschlossen. Empfänger vor die Windschutzscheibe und eingeschaltet (grünes Dauerleuchten an der Maus) und PDA an, MN 4 gestartet.
Die Satelitenanzeige ist orange aber mit der Null dahinter, dies hat sich auch nicht nach 20 oder mehr Zeit verändert. WEnn ich auf die Satelitenanzeige klicke, dann erscheint die Meldung, dass zwar ein Empfänger gefunden wurde, das Signal jedoch nicht verwendbar ist.

Han ich noch was vergessen oder sollte auch meine Maus defekt sein?

Gruß
der Elbhai

Hallo,

Nehme mal VisualGPSce. Es sollten ziemlich gleich Sat-Balken kommen, mindestens einer.

Fix erfolgt wenn mindestens 3 da sind und das "Durchnudeln" aller sat beendet ist: Balken werden blau.

Die Zahl innerhalb der Balken gibt die Empfangsfeldstärke in dB an, sollte bei 35 oder höher liegen. Darunter ist es bei den meisten Mäusen zu wenig um ausgewertet werden zu können.

Ach ja, ins freie Feld mit freier Sicht rundum und Maus aufs Dach.

Sonst poste mal ein log, so um die 1 min lang.

Versuch mal die Maus aufs Autodach zu legen, vielleicht hast Du Metallbedampfte Scheiben im Auto, dann klappt es nicht mit dem GPS-Empfang im Auto, dazu wurde aber schon viel hier geschrieben, suche mal im Forum nach Metallbedampft.
MfG
Olaf

Zitat

Original von karomue
Hallo,

Nehme mal VisualGPSce. Es sollten ziemlich gleich Sat-Balken kommen, mindestens einer.

Fix erfolgt wenn mindestens 3 da sind und das "Durchnudeln" aller sat beendet ist: Balken werden blau.

Die Zahl innerhalb der Balken gibt die Empfangsfeldstärke in dB an, sollte bei 35 oder höher liegen. Darunter ist es bei den meisten Mäusen zu wenig um ausgewertet werden zu können.

Ach ja, ins freie Feld mit freier Sicht rundum und Maus aufs Dach.

Sonst poste mal ein log, so um die 1 min lang.

Alles anzeigen

Hallo karomue

danke für deine Antwort, hast du zufällig einen Link, wo ich das Programm finde?
Ist das in der Bedienung einfach oder muss da noch viel eingestellt werden?

@Oma97

Ich fahre einen Audi A 4 Bj. 1998, soweit ich weiß, ist das eine normale Scheibe, auch wenn ich vor 2 Monaten eine neue (Steinschlag) bekomnmen habe... Aber das mit dem Dach versuche ich trotzdem nochmal!

edit: habe eien Link gefunden, allerdings steht dort, dass das Programm für Pocket PC 2002 ist. Kann ich das auch mit der 2003er Version benutzen?

Gruß
der Elbhai

@ Elbhai,
wenn noch Probleme sind, kann ich Dir sonst noch anbieten, dass wir diese gemeinsam lösen. Mit HSVMichi hat es auch ganz gut geklappt. Kannst Dich bei bedarf ja mal dazu äussern.
Viele Grüße aus Hamburg
Olaf

Zitat

Original von Oma97
@ Elbhai,
wenn noch Probleme sind, kann ich Dir sonst noch anbieten, dass wir diese gemeinsam lösen. Mit HSVMichi hat es auch ganz gut geklappt. Kannst Dich bei bedarf ja mal dazu äussern.
Viele Grüße aus Hamburg
Olaf

Hallo nochmal,

ja, das ist echt nett, würde bestimmt helfen. Woher aus Hamburg kommst du denn?

Gruß
der Elbhai

Hallo Elbhai,

schau mal hier:

http://www.pocketnavigation.de/article/view_235/4.3.10.html

Habe VisualGPSce selbst unter PC2003 laufen, keine feststellbaren Probs.

Zitat

Original von karomue
Hallo Elbhai,

schau mal hier:

http://www.pocketnavigation.de/article/view_235/4.3.10.html

Habe VisualGPSce selbst unter PC2003 laufen, keine feststellbaren Probs.

Alles anzeigen

ok, danke für den Link mit der Beschreibung! Habe das Programm auf den Ipaq gespielt.

nachher muss ich einfach den GPS Empfänger anschließen und einschalten und dann VisualGPSce starten und log aufnehmen, oder?
Kann das auch während der Fahrt sein oder muss der Wagen stehen?

Gruß
der Elbhai

Hallo Elbhai,

na ja, COM-Port und Baud-Rate muss natürlich eingestellt werden. Und sowas wie connect. Kann leider momentan nicht genau nachsehen, da mein Loox in Rep. ist.

Kann auch während der Fahrt sein, aber: fix im Fahren dauert erheblich länger als im Stand! Bitte beachten.

so, habe das ganze nochmals angeschlossen.

Ich werde der Maus jetzt noch mal eine Stunde am Stück geben, um die Initialisierung durchzuführen...

Könnte ich denn evtl. noch was falsch eingestellt haben? unter mn4 habe ich die modulare maus gewählt, ist doch richtig, auch wenn ich kein TMC oder Bluetooth habe, oder?
Die Baud Rate ist auf 34800 eingestellt, ist dies für meine Hardwarekonfiguration ok?

Die Infrarotschnittstelle habe ich deaktiviert... was kann es sonst noch sein?

Gruß
der Elbhai

Nur mal so am Rande:

Genau das sind so die Probleme, die auch noch da sind.

Es ist eine ausgezeichnete (Fehlersuch-) Methode, alle möglichen Unbekannten zu eliminieren.

Und genau dazu ist ein Tool wie VisualGPS goldrichtig.

Die Probleme mit dem Navi-Prog - egal ob MN, TTN, Desti, Falk... - kann man angehen, wenn man über seine Mausd Bescheid weiß, weiß dass und wie und unter welchen Bedigungen sie wie läuft.

So, bei aller Liebe, nochmal poiste ich das jetzt nicht.

ok, habs verstanden *g*

werde mal ein Log machen!

Danke für deine Geduld!!

hallo,

klink ich mich mal ein hier...

ich bin der mit der defekten maus...(also jetzt nicht mehr)

wenn unter visualGPSce maximal 3 sats kommen mit schwachem signal (bis max. 35db), dann hast du das selbe problem wie ich.

nicht an die zweifeln! ich dachte auch ich bin blöd. leg die maus aufs dach, mit freier sicht nach oben, und mach nen 25 minuten log. den hier posten, dann kommt der mit dem unauspsrechlichen namen und wandelt das um, dann schicks du die maus zurück mit verweis auf diesen threat, aber per telefon vorher ausmachen!!!

Viel Glück!

Florian

Zitat

Original von Charly007007
dann kommt der mit dem unauspsrechlichen namen und wandelt das um,

Hallo??

Wie meinen?? Mich

Hi,

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das komplette Log habe ich in der datei angehängt

von denen die das deuten können hab ich echt Respekt!!Falls das log zu kurz war, bitte sagen...

Gruß
der Elbhai