Den scheisndreck Maus ;-)

    Moin,


    ich bin, gelinde gesagt, genervt.
    An sich ist das ALDI-Bundle ja eine nette Sache. ABER...


    Also, wie die Überschrift vermuten lässt, ist mein Problem wohl die Maus.
    Sie zeigt sich launisch am Anfang der Navigation. Mal findet sie ein paar Sats nach ca. 20 Sekunden, mal bleibt sie stumm. Wenn ich dann auf Verdacht mal einen Softreset mache, ist sie immerhin ein wenig öfter bereit, mir was anderes als GPS 0 zu zeigen. Es gibt auber auch Tage, da kann ich machen, was ich will, was anderes als GPS 0 kommt nicht.
    Oder: Ich fahre durch einen Tunnel, z.B. Krohnstiegtunnel am Flughafen HH, der ist wirklich nicht lang, vielleicht 300 m. Und danach findet Madame dann auch keinen Sat mehr. Nach Durchfahren des Elbtunnels (3,1 km) sowieso nicht.
    Was auch garnicht geht, ist VOR dem Starten des Motors die Navigation zu beginnen, Zündung selbstverständlich eingeschaltet. Beim Startvorgang wird die Stromzufuhr wohl ganz kurz unterbrochen und dann gibts nur noch GPS 0, auch wenn vorher alles o.k. war. Na fein, seit dem gebe ich Routen nur noch bei laufendem Motor ein...
    Die Royaltek soll doch eine Pufferbatterie haben, die müsste sowas doch puffern? Aber die scheint nicht zu arbeiten, denn wenn ich die Zündung ausmache, ist SOFORT GPS !, habe bei einem Bekannten mal ein anderes System mit TomTom gesehen, da erkannte die Maus auch noch 5 Minuten nach ausgeschalteter Zündung ordentlich viele Sats.
    Und überhaupt, wenn ich mal 6 Sats habe, freu ich mich schon wie ein kleines Kind, normal sind eher 3-4, seltenst bekomme ich mal 8-9 rein, und ich fahre wirklich viel. Bei o.g. TomTom zeigte es immer zwischen 7 und 9 an.
    Also, wer hat ne Idee dazu? soll ich das Mausevieh mal einschicken? Hat jemand schon Erfahrung, wie lange das bei Medion dauert?


    Thx !!!

    Zitat

    ...soll ich das Mausevieh mal einschicken?...

    Keine schlechte Idee würde ich vermuten. ;)

    Willkommen im Forum SwimBikeRun! :P


    Hast Du die Medionpatches auf Deinen PDA.


    Die gibts im Medionshop unter Support.


    Könnte helfen. ;D

    Jetzt erst mal "keep cool und get lässig" :gap


    Grundsätzlich benötigt die Maus permanent Strom, die Pufferbatterie dien nur dazu, bestimmte GPS-Daten zwischenzuspeichern. Eine Unterbrechung der Stromzufuhr führt somit (auch wenns wirklich nur kurz war) zu einem s.g. Warmstart.
    Was zudem hier vorliegen kann, ist eine Frontscheibe die durch integrierte Heizdrähte oder Metallbeschichtung das GPS-Signal abschirmt.


    Mach doch mal den Versuch und schliesse das Navi mit funktionierender Stromzufuhr und Maus im Freien an. Wenn hier das Problem immer noch vorliegt dann mit dem Tool "GPS-Maus" den Empfänger nochmals sauber initialisieren für den Mobile Navigator und Sirf mit 4800 Baud.
    Sollte dann trotz korrekter Einstellung im GPS-Menue des Navi´s (Com1, 4800Baud), dann liegt wohl wirklich ein Mausdefekt vor. Wenns dann im Freien klappt, nur im Fahrzeug nicht, dann liegt wohl einen Abschirmung vor. Hierzu ist zu sagen, dass die meisten Fahrzeuge, die an der Frontscheibe eine derartige Abschirmung besitzen, idR im Bereich des Innenspiegels einen diesbetüglichen (nicht sichtbaren) Freiraum haben. Wenn derartiges nicht aufzufinden ist, gibt es immer noch möglicherweise ein Glasdach oder die Heckscheibe, die den Empfang ermöglicht.


    Versuch doch mal auf diese Weise den Fehler systematisch aufzuspüren.


    Viel Glück dabei, Hubert

    ... übrigens, das sind keine Tipfehler, das ist eine urheberrechtlich geschützte Schreibweise

    PS: möglicherweise ist auch eine mit schlechter Kontaktgabe gesegnete Zigi-Steckdose der Grund, warum die Maus immer wieder "aussteigt". Habe dazu bei meinem Auto von der Dauer-Plusversorgung des Radios einen Abzweig geschaffen und verbinde diesen mittels Kabelsatz mit dem Zigi-Adapter des Navis


    Ciao for now, Hubert

    ... übrigens, das sind keine Tipfehler, das ist eine urheberrechtlich geschützte Schreibweise

    Na, ihr seid ja nix... :D


    Also, das Battery-Patch hab ich noch nicht drauf, aber das ist doch für die Batterie des PDa, nicht für die Mausi, richtig? Anyway, werd es aml draufmachen.
    Bedampfte Frontscheibe hab ich wohl keine, den Test mit Maus auf dem Dach hab ich schon mal gemacht, da tut sich nix, Strom fließt meiner Ansicht nach sehr gut aus dem Zigi, immer schön Blinklicht im 1-Sekunden-Takt. Steckverbindung zum PDA ist es auch nicht.
    Ok, mit dem Tool "GPS-Maus" nochmal initialisieren, hoffe, das ist nicht allzu kompliziert.
    Warmstart, alles klar, aber wie gesagt, nach dem Warmstart kommt dann nichts mehr, Maus findet keine Sats mehr. Könnte es sein, dass wegen defekter Pufferbatterie da eher ein Kaltstart erfolgt?


    So long : drink

    Hallo Triathlet :gap ,


    dann poste doch mal bitte, was Du für ein Auto hast, vielleicht nen Franzosen, auch Opel sind verdächtig? Das wir das Thema Frontscheibe ausschliessen können.


    Gruss, Snoopy

    Hallo Wolfgang,


    ebenfals von mir: Herzlich willkommen hier.


    Mal wieder zu Erinnerung auch an alle, die hier schon gute - sicher vernünftige - Ratschläge gegeben haben:


    alle Vermuterei kann in Gewissheit umgemünzt werden, schaut man sich ein log an.


    Also, Wolfgang, besorge Dir VisualGPSce, nehme ein log auf - zum Anfang mal so 3 min nach fix - und poste es hier.


    Alles was Du dazu wissen musst steht hier.

    Voila, isch abe zwar einen Franzosen, Citroen Berlingo 2, aber wie gesagt, ich bin ja nicht ganz auf den kopf gefallen und habe gleich nachdem ich zum allerersten Mal hier im Forum war die Mausi auf dem Dach im unterschied zur Position hinter der Frontscheibe getestet und es gab wie bereits erwähnt keinerlei Unterschied.
    Gut, das Log-Tool hole ich mir gerade und werde dann mal posten.


    So long,


    WR

    So, achtung, hier kommt das Log:


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    Hab unter GLOPUS mal die Geschichte mit dem Anlassen des Autos nach bereits laufendem GPS-Empfang gemacht. Brauchte 2 minuten, bis wieder GPS-Empfang war. Das kann doch nicht normal sein...?

    Hallo Wolfgang,


    etwas über 3 min, in Ruhe (ohne zu fahren), meist 5-6 sat in use, nur wenige Zeilen mit 4, ab und zu auch mal 3.


    Was auffällt: die Höhe wackelt zwischen 32,4 und 91,6 m. Könnte an de sat-Konstellation liegen. Die ist aber leider nicht enthalten, da typisches Navigon-log (Einstellung der Protokolle) mit nur GGA und VTG. Die wichtige GSV-.Zeile zur Beurteilung der Sat-Daten fehlt leider.


    War das jetzt ein Navigon oder ein VisualGPSce log?


    Navigon filtert soweit mir bekannt. Weiß aber leider nicht genau wie und was. Das könnte der Grund für Deine Probleme sein.


    Mit dem log würde TTN allemal laufen.


    Übrigens: es gibt Autos, die schalten alles Unnötige beim Starten ab. Bei mir u.a. das Radio. Ob die ZigAnz.-Buchse auch abgeschaltet wird, müsste ich direkt mal probieren.


    Aber nach Spannungswiederkehr sollte die Maus einen neuen Fix beginnen. Ein Tipp dazu: beim Fahren dauert es unverhältnismäßig länger bis fix erfolgt, als im Stand. Also möglichst fix immer im Stand abwarten.


    Hallo,


    das Battery Patch würde ich auch nicht draufspielen, das ist nämlich "NUR" für den 40600. Da ich lesen kann, sehe ich , daß Du den 41600 hast.
    Ich tippe bei Deinem Fehler auch auf einen Mausdefekt.
    Vielleicht schickt Dir Medion ja eine neue Maus im Vorausersatz zu, einfach mal beim Service anrufen.


    Volkmar

    "das Battery Patch würde ich auch nicht draufspielen, das ist nämlich "NUR" für den 40600. Da ich lesen kann, sehe ich , daß Du den 41600 hast."


    Sorry Volkmar - das Paket zum 41600 und 40600 sind hardwareseitig absolut baugleich - beide verwenden den PPC200 (modifizierter Yakumo Delta 400). Lediglich die MN-Version ist unterschiedlich - 40600 mit MN2.0A; 41600 mit MN 3.1A


    Der Patch macht von daher schon Sinn


    Gruss, Hubert

    ... übrigens, das sind keine Tipfehler, das ist eine urheberrechtlich geschützte Schreibweise

    Beim 41600 sind die Patches schon eingespielt - von daher nicht komplett gleich wie der 40600...


    Ruf einfach bei Medion an und sag daß du einen Vorausersatz haben möchtest - dann bekommst du die Maus zugeschickt und deine kannst ohne unkosten zu haben wieder bei der Post abgeben - völlig unkompliziert ;)



    Ausserdem kann ein technischer Defekt bei jedem Gerät mal vorkommen - seh es also gelassen,


    Gruß Björn

    hi ,


    danke für die Tipps.


    Das log habe ich mit VisualGPSce gemacht. Dauerte aber schon mal 2 Minuten, bis ich überhaupt ein fix hatte.
    Hab dann auch mal getestet, wie lange es dauert, bis ich nach dem Starten wieder ein Fix habe. Auch 2 Minuten, im Stand.
    Ebenfalls 2 Minuten dauerte es nach dem letzten Durchfahren des Krohnstieg-Tunnels, 500 Meter hat der immerhin doch.
    Was mich wundert bei VisualGPSce: Ich bekomme nie eine Anzeige Sats in view, die ist immer 0, und somit auch keine Sat-Daten, Azimuth etc. etc.
    Die Patches hab ich trotzdem mal draufgemacht, ändert aber meiner Meinung nach bisher nichts.